Episode 25: Lindsey Welty - 50 Terrified 50 Excited

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Sep 22

Lindsey Welty is a nurse practitioner, a three-time Full Mo 50K finisher, and a few weeks out from her first 100-mile race. She says she's exactly 50% terrified and 50% excited.

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About this episode

Lindsey Welty grew up in Indianapolis, walked on to the track and cross country teams at the University of Indianapolis, and has worked more than full time for nearly her whole career as a nurse and nurse practitioner. Her first marathon was Monumental in 2014, she broke 20 minutes in the 5K, qualified for Boston at the BQ.2 Marathon, ran Chicago in 2021 and Boston in 2023, and was the first female at this year's Full Mo 50K.

When we recorded, Lindsey was about three and a half weeks from the IT 100, her first 100-mile race, with a goal of finishing in 22 hours. We talk about how pacing a friend at Western States pushed her to sign up, what peak ultra training looks like, the ASICS Cumulus shoes she has worn since she was 15 (and kept every pair), fueling, and a long list of running books.

In this episode, we discuss

Growing up inside the 465 loop on Indy's east and northeast sides
Getting recruited to run in high school summer gym and picking up swimming
Walking on to the University of Indianapolis track and cross country teams
Working more than full time by choice as a nurse and nurse practitioner
Playing flute in high school band and a band trip to Hawaii
Her first marathon at Monumental in 2014, finishing about five minutes off a Boston qualifier
CrossFit as the path back into running
Breaking 20 minutes and winning a Fourth of July 5K that awarded a pie
Qualifying for Boston at the BQ.2 Marathon and running Chicago and Boston
Running all three editions of the Full Mo 50K on the Monon Trail
Pacing a friend at Western States and deciding to sign up for the IT 100
Peak 100-mile training with back-to-back long runs and course recon near Fort Wayne
Running in the same ASICS Cumulus since age 15 and keeping every pair
Fueling with PB&J, Maurten and salted watermelon flavors
Mantra "It's who you are, it's what you do" from Scott Jurek's North and her book recommendations

Chapters

Intro
Growing up in Indy and high school running
Walking on in college
Nursing and working more than full time
Flute and a band trip to Hawaii
First marathon at Monumental 2014
CrossFit and breaking 20 in the 5K
Qualifying for Boston, Chicago and Boston
The Full Mo 50K
Western States and signing up for 100 miles
Training for the IT 100
Shoes and fueling
Motorcycles and nursing on the run
Mantra, music and a home gym
Running book recommendations

Where to find Lindsey

Instagram: @lindsey_endures

Mentioned in this episode

Races: IT 100, Full Mo 50K, Indianapolis Monumental Marathon, BQ.2 Marathon, Boston Marathon, Chicago Marathon, Western States 100, UTMB, Geist Half Marathon, Berlin Marathon, New York City Marathon, Monumental Mile
Organizations and charities: University of Indianapolis, Beyond Monumental, Legacy Athletics
Other: North by Scott Jurek, Hal Koerner's Field Guide to Ultrarunning, Choosing to Run by Des Linden, The Longest Race by Kara Goucher, Good for a Girl by Lauren Fleshman, Born to Run by Christopher McDougall, Endure by Alex Hutchinson, Goodreads, Garmin Enduro 2, ASICS Gel-Cumulus, Maurten gels, SWAP podcast with David and Megan Roche, "Big Vibe" by Seaway

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Frequently asked

Who is Lindsey Welty?

Lindsey Welty is an Indianapolis-area nurse practitioner and runner who walked on at the University of Indianapolis, qualified for and ran the Boston Marathon, and has run all three editions of the Full Mo 50K on the Monon Trail.

What was Lindsey Welty's first 100-mile race?

Lindsey Welty's first 100-mile race was the IT 100 in Indiana in October 2023, which she trained for with coach Rachel after pacing a friend at Western States.

What running shoe has Lindsey Welty worn since high school?

Lindsey Welty has run in the ASICS Cumulus since she was 15 and has kept every pair she has ever run in.

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Welcome to Finish Lines and Milestones with Ally Brettnacher. Incredible stories and tales of triumph with everyday people achieving their goals and fitness. This podcast brought to you by Athlete Bouquets. Celebrate finish lines and milestones of the people that you love by visiting athletebouquets.com. Hello and welcome to episode 25. I suppose that makes next week, episode 26, the marathon episode. Yeah, no, I can't believe it's already been that many actually, so forgive me. I'm a little nasally during this intro and during this episode, coming off of my first race of the fall last weekend at the Geist Half Marathon here in the Indianapolis area. I had a great race, but I really pushed myself.

I ran a 14850 which is a couple minutes faster than my postpartum PR that I ran earlier this year in North Dakota. And my all time PR is something I'm trying to chip away at, which is 144 thirty, which I'm hoping to do at another half marathon later this fall. So it gave me a lot of confidence that I can continue to get closer, if not beat that goal, which I I really think that I can. I'm going to do it. Okay, you heard it here first. So we are also kicking off fall season with the Berlin Marathon this weekend. So depending on when you're listening to this, Berlin is on the 24th of September.

A few previous guests, along with my running coach Rachel, are across the pond as we speak getting ready to run. And I'm really excited to get up really early in the morning maybe and cheer everybody on. So that kicks off a big fall. I can't believe it's here. So I'm really excited for everybody running fall marathons and feeling a little bit left out. Although my plate is very full with half marathons, which is a distance that I really love. So, but that distance pales in comparison to what our guest this week is getting ready to do. So Lindsay Welty joins me. And Lindsay reached out to me via e-mail and said, hey, if you're at the bottom of the barrel, put my name on your list And I said get out of here.

You are not at the bottom of my list and let's do this. So I knew her name from a sharing a coach. But also I had made the awards for an ultra marathon here in town, the full MO, and she was the first female this year. So I was really excited to talk to her about everything running. So during this episode we talked about growing up inside of the 465 loop as she refers to it in the Indy area. She walked on at UND for track and cross country. We talked about how she likes to work more than full time, by choice. Pretty much at any given time.

She played an instrument in high school band, and I did guess it within the first three guesses. In case you were wondering, we talked about her first marathon, which was in 2014. We talked about Crossfitting. We talked about, we talked about breaking 20 minutes in the 5K. We talked about the fact that all races should have tape to break if you win. Come on, can we do that? Everybody. We talked about how her and her now husband would run 5K's every month when they first were together, which I find adorable and pretty cool. We talked about how she qualified for Boston, how she got into ultra running her next race, which is the IT101 hundred.

Let me just reiterate that 100 miler, which is next month, October 14th, and she's also kept every single shoe since high school, every running shoe. And it's the same make and model. So you'll have to wait to see what that is. We talk about fuel and we talk about books, so running books, which is great. So she'll give you a list of those if you are looking for some new books. But I really hope you all enjoy my conversation with Lindsey. Hello. Hi, Allie. Hey, Lindsey. I'm so excited. You are one of the few people, as I just told you that I am interviewing that I really don't know well at all.

Like we just. I found you on Facebook. Yes, we're Facebook friends now. So I was like, okay. Now I feel like I know we're gonna talk about motorcycles at some point today. Okay. If that's okay. Yeah. And for whatever. I couldn't find you on Instagram. Are you not on Instagram? I am on Instagram. How can I not find you? I don't know. I suck. I follow you. Do I literally? What's? Your I don't know that I follow your Do you have a personal account and a business? Maybe I don't follow your personal account. It's Lindsay. under score endures, Lindsey. Lindsay is tricky sometimes, you know?

Oh, that's you. Oh, I'm an idiot. Let's pretend that that didn't happen. Cool. All right, well, maybe you just. Now I feel dumb. That's fine. See. Now I feel dumb. Just make you feel better. Here we are. Okay. Well, I knew your name. See, this is what confuses me with the whole idea of offline. Online, yes. I'll see people and they'll be like, hey, and then I'm like, it takes me a beat to be like, you're this person. Yes. And then like, the handle with the name. Yeah, yeah. So now I got it. I'm yeah, I'll just. I don't know what to blame that on other than I'm just feeling dumb.

But yeah. So I remember seeing your name when I made the age group awards this year for the full most for first place female. Yes. In a 50K. The only 50K to my name, but I've done it three times. OK Oh, I can't wait to hear more about that. OK. But before we get into all the running stuff, I would love to give people a chance just to get to know you a little bit better. So some of your background, really, whatever you feel like you want to share, that kind of relates to who you are and then who you are when it comes to running, just fire away.

All right, so my name is Lindsay Welty. I was born in Indianapolis. I lived on the I was born on the east side, then moved to the northeast side, went to college on the South side. Now I live on the north side. So like I always say, like I barely made it out of 465. That is funny. Where around here do you live? In Carmel, like 106th ish and range line ish. OK, so pretty close to here. Not too bad. Yeah, I used to live like I would have walked here from my old house, but we just moved in January. OK, yeah, almost all the man packed.

So where did you go to undergrad then? The. University of Indianapolis, University of Indianapolis, OK. Greyhound. Go Greyhound. Were you into sports growing up around here? Let's see. Yes, I was recruited running by my high school cross country coach. He like, so I did summer gym, you know, so you didn't have to get sweaty like during the school day. So I did Summer Gym and when we were running, he would just like stand out there every year and just pick people out like, hey, you want to run? You want to run. You look like a runner. You look like you could be faster. So I.

Was. I say recruited because it makes me feel good. Yeah, well, you were. Yeah. I was not recruited to my college team. I just showed up and they were like, well, there's room on the bus, so I guess you can come cool. So I was a walk on at und walk on, yeah. How did you know? What made you want to do that? I just didn't feel like I was done after college. Like I wanted to see what else I could do. Like, I just didn't feel done after high school. Yeah, So what? What events in high school and what sports were you track and cross country?

Yes, track and cross country. And then I swam also my junior and senior year so I picked up swimming had never swam like I the. I remember the first time I actually finished an entire practice because I was just so slow and I had to learn how to do flip turns. And I remember one time skipping the flip turns so many time and then the coach finally came over to me and was like. You're gonna have to do that during a race, so quit it. So I don't let you. You have to do it during a race. You can't do anything else. I mean, I guess you could, but I mean, I needed to learn how to do it so inefficient that you would.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Oh man, that would be me. I never. I I don't think I've ever done flip turn in my life. Maybe, but it wasn't pretty. Look at the hang of it. Yeah. The biggest thing is you have to, like, breathe. You have to blow out your nose so it all doesn't go up. The breathing thing is important. Yeah, HM. So what events were your favorite then? In high school, yes, yes, I did the four by eight. I liked that I was lead. I did the mile and the 800. I did the 32A couple times but not. Many. So I would say the four by eight and the 800, I liked the best Okay.

And the four by eight is there's four people, 4 runners and you each do an 800, which is obviously 24 hundreds. Yes, Okay, Yeah, I never did that. I did the four by one. Yeah, I was a little, I was shorter distance in my track career, which was an entire season. I think it was only one season by freshman year of high school. So, and I never did cross country, but you ran cross country as well. I like cross country better. I liken to track to like being like the horse. You know that they have the post in the middle and the horse just has to walk around the circle and it's a very sad pony.

That's what I liken to track to. But it was good conditioning and it was just like it was an unexpect or an unspoken like expectation from, I don't know, from our coach or maybe I just made it up. I don't know, but right, you just put that on yourself. You're. Like, OK, exactly. I can do that now. So for track or cross country, did you have any like did you progress in the sport in terms of, gosh, I don't even know all the terminology cuz I was never that good like sectionals, regionals, all those kinds of things. What was that like for you? No, not our team was decent.

I don't remember. I feel like we had our relay team. Went to sectionals maybe? Okay, you make me feel a little better cuz I'm like I don't even remember. Maybe. But we did have one standout runner that went to the state meet, so we would all go like, watch her, OK? And what high school was it? Remind me? Mount Vernon. Say Mount Vernon, OK? On the northeast side, Hancock County. So like just one over and up. OK. From Marion or just one over from Hamilton. All right. Roughly nice. Don't map, check that. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't know. So how big was that school?

I want to say there's four high schools in Hancock County. So I think my graduating class was around 260. OK, oh, we hit 1000 people in my senior year. That was like a big deal. Yeah. I went to Westfield High School and ours was probably about 2:50, I think, when I graduated. So it's probably the same kind of thing. I don't remember if we had 1000 or not. Who knows? I was in Office Aid that year, so that's how I remember. Oh, there you go. Yeah. So then when you were done with high school, you wanted to walk on. That's crazy. So what made you talk through the process of like?

I don't even know how I did it to be honest. How I just showed up. I vaguely remember like one of the orientation days or visiting days. There was something about athletics and I just signed up. I don't. I don't remember interesting you show up to a practice or they had a call out. They must have had a call out that I somehow found out about, or maybe? I asked. And then may I also may have gotten, like, a little bit like an of a nod because my dad actually knew one of the coaches like the. One of the coaches maybe taught him high school gym or something like that.

OK oh, that's funny. So maybe maybe that's why they let me walk on. Does anyone? And Speaking of your dad and family, does anyone in your family run? Do you have siblings? No. I have an older brother. He played a football, baseball and wrestling. So when I started running, that was very my dad. You can tell, bless him, he just like he didn't really know what to do. He didn't know, you know, because he grew up playing football and stuff like that. So he knew what to do with my brother, but for me, he just didn't really know what to do. But very supportive. She was always like, we have to get you some new shoes, you know?

Yeah, because in football you need all of the gear, and in running, at least probably when you started, you just need shoes. Now there's all the gear. Yes, So I just upgraded my as I look at your watch, it's huge. I know, it's really nice. What is it? It's a Garmin Enduro 2. I just upgraded. OK, tell me about it. I wanted more battery life for my upcoming race. Oh, right. Just that little short race. That won't take so long. Yeah. I needed. I needed more than 20 hours. Oh my God. I mean, just even like saying that out loud has to feel like. I am exactly 50% terrified and 50% excited, which I think is a good mix.

That's what I'm telling myself. Yes. Yeah, you should be scared. It's 100 miles. Yes. So OK. Well, we have, we will talk about that, I know shortly because we need to talk more about that and I think I have another friend that's running it too. The IT 100? Uh huh. I think the 200 is it in October. Yeah, it's in October 14th. So Ashley Hayes. You know Ashley. No. OK. Well, you will after. This, yeah, we're going to have to like because I'm pretty sure that's the one she's doing. It's in Indiana, it's 100 miles and it's in October, so pretty sure. I mean, like the the statistics are on our side.

Yeah, I think that's right. I should know this by now. Sorry Ashley, if you listen. So yeah, I'll introduce you her. But anyway, how did you so from college? So I want to hear more about being a collegiate athlete because it's foreign to me. I would. I was not a collegiate athlete. Far from that. My well, I mean I ran a lot in college, but not for the right reasons and I didn't go to really any sporting events. I was just way outside of that scene. So what was it like running in college? I was busy. I didn't do much of anything else other than classes and practice, so it kept me busy in that respect, which is probably good.

It was essentially like a parttime job, and then I had a parttime job as well for most of it. So what did you do? I worked at a daycare and I was a a student nurse. I basically sat with patients that couldn't be trusted to be by themselves. Interesting. Got to be some good stories there. Not terribly. I mean, most of it is just like watching people sleep. OK, well, just sounds fun. Wow, So you had. That's a lot. And I was busy. Yeah. Did you live on campus at UND or do you live at home? Still, yes, I lived on campus. Nice. Yeah, I feel like that would be being so close to home, like being able to live off campus.

Seems like it would be the right move. Right. But like, I don't like to drive. And even I had a friend that lived off campus on the team and like that extra 10 minutes that she had to get up early to get to a morning practice. Or if you wanted to change like before a night class, like. So one of my I like to take night classes, you would go to practice, go to dinner. I did not shower. I'm sorry for everyone that was near me. And then I would go straight to night class, which I really liked. So no wonder you're an endurance athlete now.

Yeah, you've been doing it for a while. Because to me, that just sounds like this sounds like so much. Like, literally, in college, all I did was go to class and drink and that was it. I didn't work and I didn't work when I was in college. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a worker bee. I think like, yeah. I've always like, even now I work more than full time, always have. I can think of two years. Out of my professional life that I did not work only full time, I've always worked more than full time by my choice. Like, not because I necessarily had to had to, but because you just like, yeah, to.

Work and endurance running, like, goes right along it. Yeah, right along with that. Just. Keep your head down and do work. Yeah, I. Don't know what that says about me. We can psychoanalyze, right? I don't know either. I'm not a therapist, I pretend So in college, did you? What was what were your events in college then? Let's see in cross country. So that was back at that time in high school. The girls ran a 4K, which now they run, everybody runs a 5K. So that was a transition for me going from 4K to 5K, so 5K cross country and in the like what's it called?

Like the post regular season, the, I don't know the whatever season that's called that has a name. We actually went up to six K. Which like, I think that's stupid. I still to this day think that's stupid, but whatever. And then in track, I was not. No one needed me in track they were just like, well, let's put Lindsey on this. I don't know. My goal in college was to be like in the top half of the cross country, like the whole every girl kind of thing. And then in track, I just, I honestly phoned it in. Yeah. Hey, you were there. I was there.

I think I did the 800. I did kind of like there's a distance medley relay, the DMR. I liked that. So I forget the distances. But like, I don't know what that is. It was different. One person ran a mile, one person ran an 801, person ran a 400. Don't quote me on those distances. I don't think that's right. But I mean, sounds good to me. Yeah. Oh, wow. And so your undergrad was then in nursing. OK, And then did you go right from your undergrad to get your master's? I did not, no. I graduated from undergrad in 2010, and I started for my master's in 2015.

So five years, What made you go back? Is that just kind of the path? Not necessarily. Again, it was just kind of like I felt like I wanted to do more, could do more so, and one of my friends had done it. So, like, she kind of showed me it was possible. Yeah. So I think that was big. Yeah, I have, I have several, a handful of nursing friends. One is like in her, she's, I swear she's done. She's done something in school like 5 different times, like she got her masters and now she's going for all these. There's all these different acronyms that are very foreign to me.

We like her. Yeah. There's like, I couldn't even name the right ones. NP, that's what I got. Nurse practitioner, cuz yeah. So is that what you end up being right away out of school or okay? And so you were always working here in the Indy area? Yep. Again, just central IN. Yeah. Do you? Have you traveled much? No, not really. No. I honestly don't love to travel. Unpopular opinion. People are gonna come at me. I don't love it. I would rather just be home like right now. This is a staycation. I'm on staycation right now instead of at work, yeah. I have been to Hawaii for a high school band trip.

That's cool. That was what instrument were you and? Guess I'll give you 3 guesses. But I bet you only need one. I don't even know if I know three instruments. I'm just kidding. I bet you get it in three. Oh. I don't know. That's such a OK trumpet. Not trumpet. I don't know why is that A bad guess? Is that even in the band? Yes, that is in the band. Okay, it's not a is it a brass instrument? It is technically a woodwind. Okay. So like an oboe closer flute. Yes, I told you you would get it in three. I did 3 guesses exactly. Okay.

So like Lizzo, you play the flute. Not nearly as good as Liz, though. I don't tell my band teacher, but I faked it a lot. How do you fake it? You just sit there like and literally just don't even blow. Or you just blow really soft. So that there's like, barely me. So yes, that's really funny. Yes. But you got to go to Hawaii for a band trip. Yes, that's insane, Okay. So did you go and just perform there or you did a parade that King command maybe? I think that's right. Had a lot of case. I think it's the king command man. Parade on, I want to say, Maui.

Cool. Yeah, it was good. Do you still have a flute? I do have my flute. Do you ever play it? Just get it out and no. Man, I'm just getting my oldest is 6 and she is just starting music lessons so we're at Bach to rock and she just started on the keyboard and so it's just it's. Fun to kind of start to see that I really wasn't. I did. I sang like I sing at church and I was, you know, but I didn't do any instruments except for the recorder, which doesn't really count. Kind of like a flute, just a really annoying one. But yeah, so it's fun to kind of have her start to do music stuff, because I would love to see her do that.

I never really did. So for better or worse, not that it really matters now. So when when did you start? Endurance races then. Like when was it between undergrad and your master's? Was it while you're in school? So let's see. Well, while I was in, while I was working on my master's degree, I did nothing. Again, I went to school and where? Well, I didn't go to school. I was all online, but I worked and did schoolwork and that was it. Wow. Nothing like I went to one movie. I can remember what the movie was, mostly because my husband fell down the stairs and rolled his ankle at the movie theater.

Man, okay, that's so sorry about you, husband. But that's hilarious. Yes, so then. What movie was it? Dr. Strange the. First time I've never seen it. Okay, It was good. All right. One movie. That's kind of not the greatest memory for me, but. Right. Yeah. Or him? Right. Gosh, poor guy. Let's see then. I in like college. I always said that I was like, I don't need to do a marathon. That's stupid. But then I think again, like, I just got curious to see if I could. Yeah, so my first marathon was monumental in 2014. OK. Did I run the half? I think I ran the half that year.

That was the year I got married. Nice. So that was the year of my PR, I think of my. I think, you know, I remember being good, like the weather was good. I think, yeah. I don't remember being terrible. So yeah, we're going to go with that either. Did you how did you train to self train? Loosely followed like something that I found on the Internet and kind of made it up. Yeah, on my own as well. OK. Was it all like on the Monon kind of around here? Yeah, The Monon the. Monon OK, So what do you remember the time you finished your first marathon?

It was either three. I want to say it was 340 because I think I missed, or 345. I know I missed Boston by 5 minutes when it was the old time. And did you know when you were running, did you know about Boston, like the time? Were you trying to do that for your first marathon? I wanted to be 4 hours, and I didn't necessarily realize that I was close to Boston until after the fact. So I don't think I knew. And I like I didn't know about it like super intensely. Like I vaguely knew that you had to qualify for Boston. I knew Boston was a big deal and I vaguely knew that you had to qualify, but I didn't think that I was close to it at all.

Right. Especially for your first marathon, right? And again, my goal was 4. Hours under four. And you crushed that. Yes, my God. Yeah, I was happy with it. And so after that, did you kind of get the bug or not really, because then I went and got my master's. Yeah, right after that. So then I did nothing. And then I started, oh. So then shortly after I graduated with my master's degree, I started doing CrossFit and CrossFit. Kind of like I didn't like the strength part of CrossFit at first, but I liked the cardio, so anytime we got to run and not touch a barbell was like my favorite days.

Which at least CrossFit that I did was like never. Yeah, at least you always had to do a bar and didn't run a whole lot. Yeah, but so. But then that got me into like running again. OK, where what was the gym that you went to then? Is it still around? It is, but not under the Origin or that name anymore. It is now Legacy Athletics in Westfield. What was it when I went there? I don't remember. Somebody listening will probably know that maybe. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I I like to think that that runners CrossFit sometimes. I I did for a while. My husband really liked it.

So it was something we did together. We lived in broadball. Yeah. Yeah. And then now I don't anymore. I like it a lot. It's just for me now that I have more running goals, it's like you can't pick which days are what. Like, yeah, Right. Yeah, like I need more control over my like strength days and what which day is primarily upper body, which day is lower body kind of things. Right. You're like, excuse me, this workout's not gonna work for me because I have to run really far tomorrow, so I'm just gonna, yeah, change it completely. Exactly. And that's like part of crossway is not knowing necessarily.

What you're doing, you just show up and yeah, and either like, cry when you look at the whiteboard or, you know, I remember being, looking at the workout, being like, OK, can I go home now? But that was one of the great things about it, right? Yeah, for sure. OK. So monumental. 2014 Masters, How long did it take you to get your Masters? Two years? Two. OK, man. And you're working full time, full time plus call. What does that mean? That means that around one night a week and one weekend a month, if the phone rings, you go to work for an undisclosed amount of time.

Oh boy. Usually around 2:00 to 6:00-ish hours. OK. Man, that'd be really crazy. How often did that happen? It was. It's always like like feast or famine. Like either you go the entire time and not a phone call, or you're just like there every single day of the weekend or something. Yeah man, that's rough. It was at times, but. But hey, you made it through. I made it through and I quit taking call a year ago, so that was exciting. That is awesome. Yeah man. Working full time. So you didn't. Did you run at all during that two years, Would you just to maintain? I didn't.

Nothing. No, nothing. Absolutely nothing. So then how okay? So then when that's done, you're like okay. Now I have some time to run again, yes. So that's in like 20/17/2018 Okay. So what was after your first monumental? Was there any other races in between then at all? No. I think when I started back I think I did. Oh, I did 5 case and I wanted to break 20 in the 5K did. You do that. I did do that in. It was like, I forget it's like the Freedom 5K. So it was around the 4th of July near Fort Benjamin Harrison something. It was at the YMCA.

And was that enough to place either age group or otherwise? I won. You won. That's I see. I think. I think that's the one of the pictures. That I was going to say. There was one with the pie with the. They gave you a pie. They gave us a pie. God, that's hilarious. I love that I recently got an age group award at a actually it was a 4th of July race as well and they gave us. I got a pool float and like a blow up pirates booty boat. It was like the most random shit. What kind of pie was it? I wanna say it was like red, white and blue.

Like a try Berry or something. They were really like going in with the 4th. They make it was like somebody from somebody, OK, but it was like a store bought pie. OK, that's so funny. But you won. Was there tape to break? No, no, that's annoying. I know I was kind of bummed, but I didn't expect to win. This other girl, though, I remember we were like, standing at the start line and she's like, oh, you're gonna win. And I was like, why? And I was like, why am I gonna win? Wait a minute. I think you're gonna win. I had no idea. I wasn't, like, thinking about who was gonna win.

Yeah, but she was right. Did you talk to her after? I did not. That's funny. It'd be like, yeah. Thanks. Hey, thanks for that. I know. I didn't think I was gonna win. And then you told me I was gonna win, so then I just did. If you wanna come to any of my other races or like functions, that'll be great. Yeah. So have you broken tape before? No. No. OK. Will you? I doubt it. OK, I won one another 5K. There was not tape. I feel like, dude, I don't know if many of them, unless they're like a really big race, like actually have tape.

I feel like they should all have tape. It can't cost that great, exactly. That's exactly where I was going to go. Like, it can't. Especially the ones that, like a lot of them are like Velcro. Yeah, I don't know. I've got to hold the tape at the Monumental Mile this year, and it's the first time I've ever done that. That was weird. That would be cool. It's very nerve wracking. It is cool and why nerve racking? Well. Because you're like, I don't want to mess it up for this person. That's like I I would be worried that it would, like, fall out of my hands instead.

Of breaking. Right. So this actually they didn't break. It's like a reusable tape. It's like, so my job was to pull, I was the puller and the other guy was the dropper. So he drops and I pull. So you try not to trip somebody that was you know and then the you know the the mail comes through and then you kind of trying to see, OK. Can we get it back out for the female? That would be tricky. I could see a. Little bit of a strategy there. Anyway, That's pretty cool though. Winning, winning five case. I mean, I have no experience in that at all.

I would say like most people who listen to this, I'm sure there's a wide variety of speeds. It's all relative, right? But yeah, I had Whitney. Do you know Whitney Bevins Whitney, Those are. I know her online only. Yeah, well, she, yeah, she's, I think the only other person. I hope I'm not mistaken. Who I've had on here who's like won a race, it's so cool. I just thought, I mean, I just never really occurred to me. You need to like go for like the small races. Yeah, I've won age group awards for that. Yeah. Like my best friend is the dentist in Danville and she sponsored the Danville, like not this year or the year before like a 5K.

And I was like, OK and I made the awards and so then I really wanted to win one and I did, but it was so small that it you just sort of kind of like, OK anyway, OK so. 5K's but OK, what was your next big race after Monumental? Did you go for a marathon again? How did I end up there? I think after I hit my 5K goal, it was like, oh, what's next? So then maybe I was like, oh, maybe I should try to qualify for Boston. Maybe that's what happened. But I was, like, nervous about it or maybe doubted that I could do it.

So I think I, like, offhand said something about like, I wish I could have like a coach again or something like that. I was like missing like that cross country kind of coach thing. So my husband actually was like, we'll get a coach. And I was like, what are you talking about? That's another thing. So he just got on Google and found Rachel and he was like, here, I'm going to send her an e-mail and he sent my e-mail, my like reach out e-mail or whatever, because I was like, no, this is weird. I don't know. I don't know. I can't. He did. He did.

So hilarious. And that's how I ended up with Rachel as my coach and. I think she did best. She is. She's so great. She's like literally on her way to Berlin right now. And so. And by the time this comes out, she'll be there. Wild. And I digress, but what? What's your husband's name? Justin. Justin. And what does Justin do? Does he run at all? Do we used to do a 5K every month together back when we first met? That's cool. We don't anymore. Yeah. I understand. He just, I don't think like he likes to run, but it just wasn't his passion I guess. So then life just got in the way and he doesn't run much anymore, although he is letting he coach him to run a mile.

He's like trying to get back into. Like a fast mile more so just run a mile. A mile. OK, that works too. Yes. Yeah. OK. So, Justin, Oh, gosh, I have 5K every month. That's so funny. Yes. And there are 5K's every month around. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. I guess that's true. There's a lot of races there are, yeah. Yeah, Ultra sign up. Well, that that one's for Ultra. That's why that's in my head. What's it called? There's like a run sign up. Just a website that has it all. Yeah, that one's like a really easy one. Yeah, you can search by date. Cool. Well, 5K scare me.

I've only done a few because they just the distance. That distance is harder for me than running a half marathon. Which people are like what the What do you mean? It's like, oh, it's different. You have to go so fast or you don't have to. But like for competitive people like me, it yeah, it kills me. I'm with you. I would if you gave me the option of a 5K or 1/2. I would take the half. Yeah, same. Yeah. So, OK, So you're trying to qualify for Boston and how did you. So you started working with Rachel. Yes. And then what was your first race to attempt to do that?

And did you do it it? Yes, it was BQ .2, but what year? I don't remember what year, so I'm gonna say 2018. OK, but I could have been wrong on that. Yeah. And so BQ too, that's the one that's up in. Chicago land area. There are a couple. I did the one in Michigan. OK, there's one in Michigan. The name is something to do with water. I don't remember. I don't know. So yeah, that's fair. But yeah, so I did it there. I think that was in maybe that was in 2020. Maybe there was more time between when I graduated, when I start, started, break with Rachel, because I remember it's a fall race and COVID was that's like how we keep track of time now, you know?

Right before or after, how many? So I remember they gave us these bandanas and we had to wear the bandanas. But it was like early in pandemic where they were like, you know, like we should mask, but we're not going to make anybody yet kind of thing. So maybe it was 2000. That would have been 2020. Yeah, 2020, I'm going to say it was of 2020. So why the BQ two? Like why one of those races instead of just like another race? Rachel. Rachel, she it was one of the ones that she like recommended. She's like, OK, you want to get this done, right? Go get it done here and it was nice as far as like it was looped so Justin could hand me like fluids and stuff and you don't have to carry a ton of stuff with.

You do you remember the distance of the loop? Like how many I do not. That's interesting. I do remember though that Justin if looks could kill me and he he wouldn't be with us. Because I was on my last loop and he was like, yeah, come on call Lindsey last loop 1 to go and I was done. Like I had to do all that I had left was like the very last loop had like this other turn, like you know, say for instance you turn left every time but on the very last when you turn right. And he told me I had one to go and I was like, no, I don't.

Yeah, no wrong thing to say exactly. I think I even, like, turned around and gave him a dirty. Look, yeah, it's funny. He's like, he's like, what should I say? Like, you know, yeah. So wait, it was. Oh, wait, no. So he miscounted it. Yes, he told me. I had an extra loop. Oh, an extra loop. OK, and I did not have an extra loop. I was done and. You're like no. Dude, I'm done with this now. And did you qualify? I did. That's awesome. I think by 7 minutes. Jesus, that's awesome. So have you. Have you gone to Boston? Then? Yes. Which years? Year I So for some reason after I qualified, I was kind of like I did that and then I like didn't want to go.

Well, I mean, you don't like to travel, So you're like, yeah, exactly. So I just went in 23. OK. That was your. What was that like? It was awesome. It was good. Again, unpopular opinion. It was really good. But it was not like amazing. Like, I I'm not in love. Love with it. It was good. Yeah. No. No. What makes you say that? You're not about it? I just like, I it's not one of those races that I need to do every year kind of thing like the course. I think probably, honestly, probably it's the travel thing, yeah, like just the whole, like on my way there my flight got delayed, so then I ended up leaving a day later.

So just like. The stress, yeah, just like the mind like melt of like, OK, I'm getting there a day later and then what if that flight is late kind of thing, yeah. That would be really stressful. Right. Yeah. And just all the logistics of a major marathon, yes. And did you re qualify for Dawson? Yeah, that was my goal there was to qualify. Wow. That's amazing. I want to qualify at some point. I think just give. It time? Time. Yeah, for sure. I'm gonna wait till I turn 40, which is coming up a couple years. So that way I'll get an extra buffer. I need all the help I can get.

I think you got it. Yeah. So in there, did you do you ran the Chicago Marathon as well? I did before Chicago in 21. 21 Okay I just wore that shirt last week, so I folded laundry and I was like, O21 Okay. That's that was it. Did you was that one. It was it was a lottery then by 21 right you yes. But I time qualified. Okay. I always forget you can time qualify. I think I got that. So you got a bit by that. Okay. Okay. So what other marathons are in there? So we've got monumental Chicago, Boston, the BQ, Two. Any other marathons?

I've done the Monumental just this last fall. Oh, you did it last year too. Yes. I did the full for the first time last year and it was, it was not great. It was great and not great. I actually, you know what? The weather was absolutely horrible. It wasn't. But I had a great race. So I, you know, I kind of loved it. I'm glad. Yeah. I am very happy for you because I mean, literally my feet were like blowing out from underneath me and I was just like, this is hilarious, but I don't know what it was about it, but I still, who knows?

But it was your day. Yeah, it was my day. Yeah. Yeah. So when did ultra marathoning come into the next? When? They started the full MO, TJ Daley and the MTC crew. I'm not even going to pretend to try to say Meta Zilla. Yep, meta. I think I could pronounce it if I looked at it. Probably not I. Think it's along the lines of mashing Gomesia, but I don't think that's. I think I'm missing a syllable in there so TJ can tell. I know what and why. I forget why that's. That I. As far as I know, his mother, who has passed it is a rare illness that she was afflicted with.

I believe it's an illness I. Think so. OK, interesting. I actually thought, this is how. OK, I don't even know if I want to admit that. I thought it was like something. I can't even say that I don't know, like like an Indian tribal thing. I don't know what about the word made me think that it related to some sort of tribal thing that. Yeah, I'm questioning my life right now. I am questioning everything. I don't know. Anyway, so I would, yeah. I mean, I clearly can't call it a terrible name if it's the name of an illness. I didn't realize that. It's just hard to say.

So if you could put out a video, yeah, Or just, we'll just call it that. Yeah, so I think Rachel posted about it. Okay. Because she's friends with like Christy and Christy is in MTC. So she posted about it. And then I had just done, oh, so I did during COVID, Boston was all like, oh, right, the virtual questionable or quite, Yeah. That's why I didn't go to Boston right away, because it was like, questionable. And then I was like, well, I'm not gonna like, you know, I don't want to do it virtual. I just don't want to. There's nothing wrong with that, but I just don't want to.

It must have been. Maybe it was 2019 then, right? But maybe that would make sense. So it was 19 and then going into 20. So like, as kind of like a consolation prize for myself. Yeah, I did some of the, like, I wanted Boston like gear. Yeah. So they did have other smaller races, which in my mind is different. Why those races were good and why I didn't want to do the marathon. Yeah, there's no rhyme or reason, right? So I did like they had this series of like 5K10K half. So I did those and then they had, they put out this do a mile time trial thing and get this hat.

So basically you're paying for the hat and I like the hat. So I did that and then I was like, oh, well, what am I going to do next? And then that's when I saw Rachel's post about this 50K that they've never done before and it was on the Monon, that's that was like my home. So I was like, well, I guess I'm going to do that. Yeah. Well, yeah, why not? How so? That's how many miles? 31.067 I think. OK, so all right. And so Rachel helped you train for that. Yes. What's the furthest you ran before that? Before that, yeah, a marathon. OK, just a casual marathon.

And then you're like, you can do that, you can do the rest. It's only 6 more miles. Oh my gosh. Four. Yeah. But it's like, I don't know. You think about the mindset you're in when you're finishing a marathon. It's like, well, as long as you know in advance it's right, you're nobody's gonna sign up for a marathon. And they'll be like, oh by the way so this is a surprise ultra where you need to go 6 more miles. Can you? Met True. The good thing about that one is like, it's point to point. So it's like straight. So, like, once you're out there, it's like, well, there's only one way back.

Yeah, that's a good point. I did the I've done the oh shoot, Indy. I think Indy runners puts it on. What's it called? Like run the moan on or something like that. I did that before my 2018 marathon, which was New York. I did. Where you run 20 miles on the monon, so you start. Like, yeah, that sounds familiar. You just, they bust you. Like, I forget which way. But yeah, it's like you have to run downtown, right? To get back to your car or like whatever. And so I I do love the Monon. I think some people might say that it's boring or like, oh, I couldn't do that because it's just like, but I I kind of like that there's no extra thinking, you just yes.

Go Yes. Zone out and just run. Yeah, so have you won every time, like in like age group or female or otherwise? So yes, age group. So the first year I did, when I like went into it, just I'm just running this. But then within 800 meters, it was like me and this other girl. Oh boy, and my competitiveness, just like. Stepped in and I was just like, well, I'm going to stay with her and then we'll see what happens. And it just turned out to be a good day. The second year I got second female, so I think and then they don't double up like awards.

So like if you were the first female, then that's what you get, and then if. So and then the third year similar. So next year I'm going for 4th because it'll be the 4th year, so I'm going to go 4th. Seems like seems reasonable. I can't even imagine. I just. I don't know. It's a fun race. If you're interested at all in ultras, I'm interested. The time of year is what gets me, isn't it June? Yeah, early June. OK. Just seems like so warm I suck it. Warm weather. I want to say this first year was a little bit warm, but I typically do well in warm.

OK. Like the year that I did Chicago was like a well known warm year. Oh yeah. And I did. Well, there you go. That's nice. OK, so now you run the full mile, is that the only ultra you've done? Yes, OK, until. Until. Oh my gosh. Three weeks for two and a half? 3 1/2 weeks from now. Oh my God. OK, so tell me, walk me through the decision to sign up for 100 Mile Race. Yeah, because I don't know how that happens. Yeah. It just happens. So let's see. I think one of my friends does ultras and was like, come on, you should do it, You should do it.

And I'm just like, meh, meh, like, I'm not that interested. But then he got into Western states. Oh yeah. So. He asked me to pace him for that. So I was like, yeah, I'll go to Western states. It's Western states, so remind me. So I don't know, just for the people and for me who feel dumb now, what is? Western States, Western states is a well known. It's like a big deal in the ultra world. So it is a bit like the Super Bowl of ultras in the United States. I would say there are some more popular like UT MB would be more popular. Yeah, but Westerns, and I think I want to say it's like the oldest or one of the oldest ultras in the States.

And it was its 50th anniversary this past year, and my friend was 50, so it was like, meant to be. Oh, that's cool. But he had a really bad day, really bad day. It was so rough year as far as snow, so like it's at altitude in the mountains, so it was a very snowy year and the snow had not yet melted off. So he just got stuck in the snow and didn't make the first cutoff. So he was out. But just being there, that was inspiring. But also it was again like it was a straight 5050 thing. Like I was very inspired, but I was also like, well, if my friend can't do it, then why what?

I think I can. He's experienced. He's done, you know, I think he's done over 1000s. So then I didn't sign up right away, but I did. I know myself well enough to know that once I went to Western states that it was very likely I would want to do 1. So earlier in the summer I had looked up enough to keep my options open. Like, I didn't want to miss an opportunity because I didn't. Because I looked too late or I didn't know. Oh, yeah. Like all of a sudden. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So I. I knew myself well enough to know that, so I had, you know, the I T100 in mind, but didn't.

I didn't sign up for it until July, so it took me, it took me. I thought about it for at least I think 2 weeks or so and then you're like, OK. And then I was just like, why not? Oh, well, actually, I think before I officially signed up, I think I asked Rachel if she would coach me. Because if she said no, then I think that might have impacted my decision. But she said yes, she's like, sure I can do that. Yeah, of course she can. Of course she can. Oh, my gosh. 100 miles. OK. So how's that training been? I'm tired. Yeah, just slightly tired.

Yes. Do you have any kids? Do you guys have kids? No, no. By choice. Not by choice. Not for me. I like kids, but not for me. Yeah so well. I mean, cuz it's like at the guys this past weekend finished the race and the announcer is like the hardest thing you're going to do all day is over and I'm like, you must not be a parent anyway. Well, and not to say, but not to say your tiredness is not whatever, you know what I mean. I. Don't know how people do it with kids, but it's like I can't fathom training for an ultra marathon at this season of my life, right?

Right. But people do it. People with them can still do. It yes. And people like that also work more than me and like do. People do it. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how. Okay. So you're tired. How, like, what are the long runs like? Do you do once a week like a long? So right now I'm doing back-to-back. So like, Saturday will be a long run and Sunday will be a medium long, All right? What does that mean? Like what are the miles for that? This past week I did. 30 miles Christ. But if you're at 30 miles, you might as well do the 50K.

So I did 31 miles, I was gonna say. Yeah, might as well. And then Sunday I did 12. Okay. I wanted to do 15 because I would have put me at 70 for the week. But. I decided not to. I was like scratchy throat, Good athletes decision your body. I'm sure Rachel would be like, yes, good choice. I did. I like mentioned to her. I was like, by the way, I wanted to do 70, but it didn't seem like a good idea and she said 100% agree. Do not do that. Crazy. Wow. Wow. So that's this week. Is this when is it nearing peak? Is it?

Yes. So I'm like right in the peak, OK. I think so this weekend. Or this weekend is a little bit lower, it's only it's only 20 and I don't know what Sunday is between 12 and 16 and it might actually end up being the same but running less on Saturday maybe OK and are you doing all of your miles on the Monon? No, I have not been on the motor. I've been hitting the trails a lot. So I've gone up to, yeah, I've gone up to train on the course in near Fort Wayne. I want to say fourish times. So that's what I did. It's the course is it's like a 25 mile loop.

So I'll run that four times for the race. So I did. I've technically run the whole race now. I just have to run it all in one day now instead of across two months. So I've been at Fort Benjamin Harrison a lot. I've done a little bit of Cool Creek, which is nice because of the hills, but the like trail part of that, it's not terribly long. Yeah, I was gonna say it's a lot. Can't really get a much, yeah, many miles out there. Which I don't. I don't mind the loops, I feel like as much as other people may do, yeah. Certainly may mind, but I've been trying to stay off the pavement for, like, my long runs and my workouts.

Just to kind of save the pounding. Yes, exactly. And do you wear like trail running shoes or you should wear regular shoes? I have a pair, but I only wear them for like my long runs that are on trail. OK. Will you wear those for the race? Yes, yeah. I've actually been running in the same make and model of shoe since I was 15. I just basically buy a different color. What shoe? Asix. Cumulus Okay. I'm a Nimbus girl. Nice. Yeah. And I literally have had like a million pairs of them, and I love them. I. Still have every single pair, do you? Really. I do.

I know that's cool. I don't know why. My God, where? Where do you keep them? Basement. I like picture of all of shoes. You should. Yeah, they're like just like they're like they stacked up, OK? Yeah, I have every, every shoe that I've ever run in. So I my first pair of shoes was this, like Adidas. I think it's a trail shoe, honestly. Like, looking back at it, this Adidas shoe. And I ran in Nikes for a little while. This is in high school. Yeah. And then I switched to A6 cumulus and never looked back. Wow. They should sponsor me. They should like I've given.

Yeah, I mean, that's a lot of money and that's a lot of shoes, I would imagine. You see? Yes. So say at least in high school and college, at least two a year. Every year. Wow. And then a little bit less. And now I'm up. Sometimes three. Yeah, I bet with the mileage. That's so funny. That is such a like, I'm just thinking through that. Like I have probably, let's see, I probably have five or six pairs of Nimbus right now. I've I've donated a lot like I've like purged them over time, but I still have, I'm like well I might need these for like yard work shoes and then these, but I have like 3 pairs of shoes like that.

Like I don't need any of them. And then what I worked at Fleet Feet for a while and so I would, I just, they would give you shoes. And so I have all these random shoes now, but yeah, the Nimbus, the newest Nimbus. I don't know if they changed the cumulus like they did the Nimbus. But they did. I have not gotten the newest OK because I was going to get your feedback on that, The Nimbus. It was great, but it's like a completely different shoe. But I like it. Thankfully, but it's. I was hesitant to start a new shoe in the middle of a training cycle.

Yeah. And let's be honest, they have the older models for like way less, way so much better. I know. I would rather just keep buying old models. Friendly because there's so much less expensive. Yeah, yeah. And what do you feel with? You can mostly. And I've been, as I've gone into ultras, I've been doing like peanut butter and Jelly, peanut butter crackers. Nice. Are you crunchy peanut butter or regular? It depends it. Depends. So with running, I think creamy is better, but like for home snacking, extra crunchy actually. Like all the crunch. Yes. You think just like being able to eat it quickly, kind of ish the smoothness.

Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. You can. I have never tried. You can. I like them. I just tried Morton for the first time. I had to get used to Morton. It's weird, but I like it. But the caffeine ones taste weird. I did not like the taste. They taste like. Chemicals. Yeah. Better. Yeah. The regular tastes like marshmallow. So it was like, so good. I loved the regular. I didn't get Marsh. I guess I could see that. But to me, it just tasted like just. It's just sweet, like sugar Jelly. Yes, and I didn't. Before I opened the first one and ate it, I didn't necessarily know.

Same about the texture. Yeah, so that was very off. It is really alarming. I would say, yeah. So PSA for anybody who's never tried Morton Gels, because I just wanted to see what the fuss was about. Our coach Rachel uses them and bought at Boston. They have them and you know, they're all all the race. So you try them, you're like, oh, but it's like it almost feels like it's going to be pure liquid, like from the outside, right. Like when you hold it, I'm like, how's this going to work? And then when you get it, it's like a cross between like liquid and like a goo.

It's almost like it's like a Jelly. Yeah, I was gonna say it's very much like a gel. Whereas like your goos and other brands are much more liquid. They're like a very thick, sticky liquid. This is very much like a gel. Yeah, it's weird. I recommend chewing. I know some people don't. Yeah, I kind. But I have to chew. Yeah, kind of like, not with my teeth, necessarily. Like like mashing around. Anyway, this is getting weird, but really it is interesting. People need to know. People need to know. I would advise against the caffeine ones because the taste in my opinion. So I went to guys and I had a caffeine one and then I just had a goo because I love goo.

It doesn't hurt my stomach. So I just feel like why not? And I've never tried. You can, but I probably will at some point. I mean, I got. I'm gonna be honest, I got sucked in by Sarah Hall, and I'm a baby, so I know, right? They have. I mean, I've been. I've been watching. I've been watching. So at some point, I'm sure we will. Have you ever tried the syrup? I have not. It's weird. I'm. It's just weird. It's just syrup. That's all it is. Yes. Yeah. So I did that once. Does it have electrolytes or? No, no, it's just syrup, I'm sure. Actually, I shouldn't say that.

I'm sure some of them have. Maybe put some in, but the ones that I've tried or it's literally like a little package of straight up syrup, Maple syrup, and you're like expect it. I don't know what you expect, but it's syrup and it's like the liquidy syrup, like the Super liquid Maple syrup. Anyway, they have a side by side chart. Yeah, that shows you like here's like goo energy gels and here's the syrup and it's better, right? You're like, oh, OK, I'll give it a shot, but I didn't really like it. Yeah, Maple. It's a good flavor, but it's a good breakfast flavor. I'm not sure if it's a running flavor.

Yeah, like I I avoid the chocolate stuff when I run. I was just gonna ask you if you do that. No. Yeah, chocolate isn't for me. I like a Berry. Or I do salted caramel. That's my I do like salted caramel, which I think is on the edge there of being that, like, weird. For me personally, yeah, I I stick with the fruit. Yeah, I really like the watermelon. Salted watermelon. It's my favorite. I clearly like the salt. Will Justin be part of your crew? He's going to crew. So is it just like just him, or you have a few people? Or my friend Brian May pace me.

The verdict is out. We'll see. OK, he's gonna pace me. But Justin is going to crew. Bless him. Bless him. How's he feel about it? He's very supportive. It's not like his favorite, favorite, favorite thing just because it takes a lot of my time. I'm cranky and tired afterwards. Yeah, he's supportive. Yeah, he knows what it's important to me, so. Yeah, that's good. That's good that he comes and supports you. I wanted to know. I did want to know if there are any interesting stories from being a nurse practitioner and being an ultra runner. Do you feel like, I don't know, are you better equipped out there if like somebody needs help?

I just feel like if I had, I do have nurse friends. I shouldn't say if I have nurse friends, I like, text them when something's going on, you know? Yes. Do you get a lot of that? Not a ton. I get some. I feel I'm telling myself I don't know if it's true or not, but from like my years and years of taking call, like working all night, like that's where I'm telling myself that, you know, being up, running all night, like, oh, I can do that because you stay up all night working, right. So I'm drawing on that specifically as a nurse. I'm going to say not really.

People really like my veins. I get told that I have good veins all the time. Sorry, that is the biggest vein I've ever seen. Yeah, in a good I'm jealous because look at my tiny ass. I wish. And yours are like kind of twisty. So you can't. I have to go in the hand every time. Yeah, no one has. Never. I've never had a blown Ivy or a missed Ivy. Well, they'd have to be like. I don't know, drunk or blind or both to miss your veins. That's really nice. Yeah. So you probably can give donate blood a lot. Do you do? I don't because I'm selfish because I'm always training for a race.

Yeah, that's fair enough. I can't because last time I tried, they're like, girl, this is not, this is not your thing, like go do something else. Because my veins are so small. And every time somebody who doesn't know me tries to take my, I'm like, I'm telling you, you need to go in my hand and they'll be like, let me just see. And I'm like. You're going to stick me four times. And they do, and I hate it because I hate needles. So that's great. Anyway, Oh my gosh. Well, that's good. If you ever are injured or something and need an IV right away, you're golden.

I am golden. The other thing I want to make sure we touched on was motorcycles, because my dumb ass who thought I didn't follow you on Instagram saw on your Facebook that there was motorcycle stuff and I just was curious about that. So Justin used to ride. He doesn't ride anymore, which I'm glad, and he briefly sold motorcycles. He's a wandering soul professionally, not like me at all, but he's a wandering soul. So he sold motorcycles for a while and then I have my license. But I used to ride like behind him, like with him, and that was fine, liked that. But as soon as I got my license, I was done.

I was like, Nope, I can't ride behind you anymore. And I didn't like being the driver either. I it was. It was a short lived hobby. That's funny. Very short lived. Yeah, I have friends that do it. And I just, like, they'll go up to Michigan and do like a whole thing. Have you done that? No, no. But yeah, it's just like. I don't know. I went on. I was. I've been on a motorcycle in high school with my parents. Sorry, Mom. God, I forgot that you probably didn't know that. Because one time, as the guy was an idiot, and I realized that. So that was the only time I was ever on a motorcycle and everything's fine.

But yeah, I know. I don't ever. I don't really have the desire to do it again. We like rented mopeds once on vacation, and I hated that. Like, it scared the crap out of me. I don't know. So that's funny. Sell motorcycles? Yeah. Interesting. So now we are getting to where I ask you the end of the podcast questions. OK, and so first one, do you have a certain mantra and or song? All right, so current mantra, they kind of change seasonally. So this wasn't like my lifelong mantra, but I read a fair amount of books like Associated with Running. OK, I wanted to know about that.

I have, I have a whole list. I recommend the app Good Reads. It helps you keep track of books that you have read. You can keep a list of books you want to read. I really like that feature. But anyway, I think I read it in a book called North by Scott Urich and it's about him doing the Appalachian Trail. He wanted to do the fastest time for the Appalachian Trail and he kind of got down, was like trying to find his why. And one of his friends was just kind of like, it's who you are, it's what you do. And that really resonated because I don't have like a super strong why?

Other than like honestly, it's just who I am. It's what I do. I I I don't know. I don't like, I'm not. I don't have because I'm not compelled by my kids. I'm not like, I don't do it for anyone. I just do it. It is pretty powerful, really. Yeah. So that one. And there's another one. Sometimes Nike gets me like, just do it right. Yeah. My friend Mary said that as hers on this podcast. I forget what episode she was. But yeah, she's like, just do it, get it done. I think that's pretty. That's why it's a great slogan. And brand. Yes. Yeah, songs.

Do you listen to music? Do not like once? I can't remember the last time I did. Is it an ultra running thing where ultra runners don't listen to music? Are you allowed? You are. I mean, it's kind of the same, the same as every other race, where like keep it soft enough that you can be aware of your surroundings. For me it's just like a time to deconnect or disconnect and just be away from all the beeping and the noises of like, you know, life now. But I do listen to music when I lift. OK, so my current favorite song that like, I do like a little routine, they're calling it Mountain Legs by the Swap podcast.

David and Megan Roach. So it's it's just step ups and reverse lunges. And I thought the reverse lunges would be the killer, but it is not. It is the step ups. So I'm up to 30 reverse lunges like single leg and 40 step ups and the song that I turn on for those step ups is called Big Vibe by Seaway, right? I'm. OK. I like it a lot. It's kind of. It kind of feels like retro Ish to me. OK, but that's the song that gets me. Pumped. Do you do that at home? Then you go OK in the in the basement? I have like a little.

Where you look at all your shoes, you've ever Yes, do. You have a picture of that. I want to see a picture of that. You have to take. You have to take one if you don't have one, Yeah, I want to see what that is like yeah, you should make like if it's, I don't know. I just picture like the designer and myself is like OK, I would have the entire wall. Like the whole wall would be shoes, would be like an accent wall, but it'd just be all my shoes. So hold on, you said the designer in you. Like, are you for hire? Oh, well, don't get for that designer because I, you know, we just moved.

So I like our basement is separated into like 4 rooms. OK, so I have got strength room, I have a cardio room, we have like a I'm calling it a rec room and then Justin's room. Whatever the hell he wants to do with that, it's his business. I have my 2:00 rooms and that's enough for me. Oh, you get to have. It's like your own gym area room. Yes. So I have my strength room and then so my shoes are all in my cardio room. Yeah, so but like, I like, wanna like decorate it and do like all sorts of things with like all of my medals because I also still have all of my high school ribbons.

Oh my gosh, I have all of my. I sound like a pack rat. I have all of my safety pins from all of my races like. That high school? That is nuts. You're the person that pack a pickup. That Chase hangs A handful too. You, like, never have enough. No, you just save the ones that were on your bed. Yes, exactly. OK, that's. I mean, I have a lot of mine. From recent races, probably because I just didn't take them off, but now I have my bibs and frames now so I took them off when I framed them and then now I use the race dots, the magnets, so whatever.

But okay, interesting. Well and I can make decals, so that can be fun. I made one for my gym wall that says you get to do this. I really like that mantra, but it doesn't. It's not as big as I want it to be, so I might like at some point revisit that, but. Oh yeah, if you need ideas, I'm your girl. Tired. Yeah, perfect. That's where like this, like your business with Athlete Bouquets and like art is not for me because I have this picture in my head. Yeah, but it never turns out how I want it. To see I have this talent that I've as I've gotten old, I like now I recognize it as a talent that I can see it and then I can make it happen, which I didn't realize really was talent.

It's like, what do you mean? I just. Visualize it. And then there it is. And people are like, but yeah, I don't know how to do that. Like what do you mean? Oh, it's okay something that, you know, I'm like science and like that sort of thing. Yeah, like I visualize this is going to make me sound a little nuts, but I am nuts. I my room, I have the peloton treadmill and the peloton bike and when we redid our basement I could see the room I wanted and I could see it being featured by peloton. I was like, I'm going to make this such a bad ass room.

They're going to put it on their page and they did. No way. I've been featured on Peloton's Instagram and they tagged me with the wrong name and that was really sad. They forgot the T and Ally T Brett, which is my personal Instagram, and I was very heartbroken. I even, I messaged him. I'm like, hey, can you? Can you change it? It's like the only time this is ever going to happen. Can you please change it? And they didn't care, but it was fine. I thought it was really cool. Anyway, that's awesome. Yeah, I can help. I love, I especially love the gym. I would say like home decor.

I don't really do very well. But I mean, I can, but it's not. I don't like it as much as like a gym space, like a space like that. Or even my craft room that I use for athlete bouquets. I could kind of like I could see what I wanted. So yeah, cool. Now what were you talking about? Okay. And then now we know your next finish line is going to be October 14th. My sister's getting married that day. It's going to be a great day, probably the 15th technically, but we'll see. Right, okay, I'm right on the bubble. So I could finish on the 14th.

So how many hours is like the cutoff is 30 hours. So you don't sleep. You just correct. You do not sleep. My goal. I don't want to say it out loud, but I'm going to say it. I'm going to shoot my shot. I want to finish in 22 hours. Okay, you're going to? And your watch will make it with yes my giant watch cuz it's the battery will last. That's amazing. That's amazing. What doesn't that do? I mean, it seems like it would do anything. Yeah. I don't even know what all it does to be honest. Believe me, when I first started working with Rachel, that was the first time I knew Garmin could program workouts, which made me.

I was like, that made my life because I was so like, it's like, I'm gonna have to go to the track, you know? I don't love the track, right? Yeah. Run circles. Yeah. But it just beeps at me. Yeah, it's easy. Very receptive to beeping. Like as a kid my dad would like, whistle at us, like when it was time to come in. Yeah. Or like, if we were too far ahead. Yep. So I'm like, beep, whistle. Like I'm very. I feel like receptible, like my dad can do like the, you know, put your fingers in your mouth. Actually, I don't even think he does that, needs to do that anymore.

But yeah, I'm very, I'm the same. So it works very well. And then okay, so I will be cheering for you and Ashley because I'm pretty sure that's the one she's doing. So you'll have to meet her. And she's amazing. She's on the board with me at Beyond Monumental and she's going to come on this after because I was like, I want to hear all about this. I've never talked to somebody who's run 100 miles. Well, I have now, but well, I haven't done it yet. You will. And no doubts there are 0 doubts. Just don't go to any movies where you're going to fall down the stairs.

I was going to ask you too, about books. Yes. So maybe just before we go rattle off a few of your favorite running related books, because I'm always I've listened to a lot recently, but I'm always looking for more. Let's see. So North was good. I am currently reading. Who am I currently reading right now? It's an ultra training, like a training book. OK, that one is good. I'll come up with the title later. Have you read everything All at once by Steph Cudraw Cat Cat Judal? No. Tommy ribs? No, I don't know. The one I'm reading right now is How Corners Field Guide to Ultra Running.

I like that one. It is Tommy Ribs. He like almost died. He's an ultra runner and her book is, it's from her perspective and she is a brilliant writer. She's like always been a writer and her book is so well written. It's just so, so lovely. That would be. That's really good. Have you choosing to run? Have you read Dez's book? Yes In the Longest Race by Kara. Have you listened to hers or read it? I have not read hers because I'm like, I'm very interested, but I like, feel like I need to be in the right mindset because I know a little bit about it.

Yeah. So I'm like saving it for the right time. Yeah, if that makes sense. Yeah, and then I read Lauren Fleshman's book Good for a Girl. That one's on my list. That's good. There was a really good book that Runners World put out that was like a bunch of short stories. Oh, I would love that. So that one was really good. I'm gonna have to follow you on Goodreads. I need to put. I need. I swore I just checked recently if Goodreads and Audible would sync because I feel like that would be really smart. But I don't think they do, because now most of my reading is done on Audible.

I'm listening to Cody Rigsby's book right now, Peloton Instructor. It's really good. Yeah, he's funny cuz I go for like inspiration slash education slash entertainment. Yeah, cuz I can actually listen to them on a run. Yeah, I do like podcasts when I drive, so I listen to you on my drive to and from work. That's so nice. Let's be born to run. That was a really. Good one, of course, but I'm not running barefoot. Yeah. Like God. Who's really Tara? Umara, yes, but I'm not. That's on their foot. Yeah, my husband had. I don't know why he downloaded this in my Audible, but born to run too is in my Audible that I yes, I have that.

Should I listen to that one too? Is that worth it? That one's good. That one's much more of a training. Guy like more technical? Yes, more so than, like, you know, telling the stories and things. Yeah, OK Endure by Alec Alex Hutchinson was good. I also like this other guy. Finn. Finn something. I've read a couple of his books. OK, Ardenac. Ardenac something. I like the name Finn. That's cool name. But yeah. All right, well, good. I'm gonna add those, some of those to my list. OK? And I'm gonna find you on Goodreads so I can see all the books because I'm always literally like somebody will post a book.

Jennifer, I don't know if you say it. Me or nigh. She also. She could train with Rachel. I think she's been injured. But anyway, she always has the greatest book recommendations. They're like random novel stuff. But I know that we now that I've listened to some of her recommendations, I know we have the same taste. And so any time she puts one that I haven't read, I just add it to your list. I'm like thank you for being my book guide. I need the help so. Well, thank you so much for doing this, Lindsay. Thanks for having me. Was it as bad as you expected?

Was it? No, I do pretty well. Like one-on-one. It's groups that. I don't. I don't like that either. Really shy. Yeah, if anyone ever asked me to do this, like in front of a group of people you're not, that would give me anxiety and I would be. I would be like popping Benadryl before hoping Don't break out in hives. Like literally, literally break out in hives. It makes me so nervous. It's weird. It's like who like? I put myself in the audience in those situations, and if they, like, said something dumb or like fumbled over their words, I could literally care less. But on the other side of it, you think it's the end of the world.

I don't know. It's so weird. I get well. I'm so excited for your first 100 thank you, and I can't wait to see after that what's going to be next. Do you already have a thought about it all? OK, no idea. But you will once that's done, because it certainly seems like you've kind of done this, yes. Check that off the list. Check that off the list and then we'll figure it out. I don't know. Well, we will stay tuned, yes. Well, thank you everybody for listening to this episode, and I hope everybody has a good weekend and happy running. Bye.

Ally Brettnacher